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		<title>By: catinthehat</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14528</link>
		<dc:creator>catinthehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the ocpm report
the city or developer (brain is a tad foggy at moment)
there is a mention of LIMITING the &#039;animation&#039; or nightlife  where this monstrosity would be built. 
it would only be allowed till 7 or 8pm.

gee thats going to kill club soda and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the ocpm report<br />
the city or developer (brain is a tad foggy at moment)<br />
there is a mention of LIMITING the 'animation' or nightlife  where this monstrosity would be built.<br />
it would only be allowed till 7 or 8pm.</p>
<p>gee thats going to kill club soda and others.</p>
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		<title>By: qatzelok</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14336</link>
		<dc:creator>qatzelok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This demolition - like so many others - is part of the Culture Wars between the rich, controlling classes, and the poor who have no way of defending themselves.

A few wealthy people find the lower Main &quot;gross&quot; (just like they found Overdale, or the Quartier de Melasse gross) so they tear it down, and a whole bunch of poor people have nowhere to go anymore.

The Spectrum was also demolished towards the same end: eradicate the poor like bacteria.

In the meantime, our Financial Predators at the banks and in government continue to manufacture more poverty with their rich-o-centric policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This demolition - like so many others - is part of the Culture Wars between the rich, controlling classes, and the poor who have no way of defending themselves.</p>
<p>A few wealthy people find the lower Main "gross" (just like they found Overdale, or the Quartier de Melasse gross) so they tear it down, and a whole bunch of poor people have nowhere to go anymore.</p>
<p>The Spectrum was also demolished towards the same end: eradicate the poor like bacteria.</p>
<p>In the meantime, our Financial Predators at the banks and in government continue to manufacture more poverty with their rich-o-centric policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanah Heffez</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14328</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanah Heffez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current state of affairs as of Feb 1st is that Café Cleo has sought an injunction against expropriation. This will halt the expropriation process until they are seen by a judge. According to Lalonde, there is no set court date yet.

Mtl Pool Room is still active but is expected to sell in Feb (again, according to Lalonde). The rest of the buildings are owned by SDA and vacant. 

In short, the project is on hold and most of the block is in a state of neglect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current state of affairs as of Feb 1st is that Café Cleo has sought an injunction against expropriation. This will halt the expropriation process until they are seen by a judge. According to Lalonde, there is no set court date yet.</p>
<p>Mtl Pool Room is still active but is expected to sell in Feb (again, according to Lalonde). The rest of the buildings are owned by SDA and vacant. </p>
<p>In short, the project is on hold and most of the block is in a state of neglect.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Alfaro</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14325</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin Alfaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this article, Alanah. I was wondering what the current status of this dossier was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article, Alanah. I was wondering what the current status of this dossier was.</p>
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		<title>By: Émile Thomas</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14324</link>
		<dc:creator>Émile Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>« an influx of office workers will animate the street and support the local businesses »

Christian Lalonde should be ashamed of himself, as a City of Montreal Urbanist and Architect purporting that office workers animate a street. 

First - the street is already animated - AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY. So from the get-go Mr. Lalonde&#039;s comment is a sophism.

Second - I invite Mr. Lalonde to take a stroll down Réné-Levesque or around métro Square Victoria. Sure, during the day, these areas are packed full of people, but come 6 pm they are completely dead. Is this the kind of animation brought by office workers that Mr. Lalonde is seeking?

I would not be surprised that, in a couple of years, we hear about how someone, somewhere, has illicitly made money off this redevelopment scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>« an influx of office workers will animate the street and support the local businesses »</p>
<p>Christian Lalonde should be ashamed of himself, as a City of Montreal Urbanist and Architect purporting that office workers animate a street. </p>
<p>First - the street is already animated - AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY. So from the get-go Mr. Lalonde's comment is a sophism.</p>
<p>Second - I invite Mr. Lalonde to take a stroll down Réné-Levesque or around métro Square Victoria. Sure, during the day, these areas are packed full of people, but come 6 pm they are completely dead. Is this the kind of animation brought by office workers that Mr. Lalonde is seeking?</p>
<p>I would not be surprised that, in a couple of years, we hear about how someone, somewhere, has illicitly made money off this redevelopment scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanah Heffez</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14319</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanah Heffez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, the quote is due me quickly typing his answer during a rather informal phone conversation. I just fixed the grammatical error (my fault).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, the quote is due me quickly typing his answer during a rather informal phone conversation. I just fixed the grammatical error (my fault).</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14317</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>===
Without wanting to go on a tangent, if that&#039;s an actual correctly cited quote, then that&#039;s an appalling level of French for a senior civil servant.
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Without wanting to go on a tangent, if that's an actual correctly cited quote, then that's an appalling level of French for a senior civil servant.<br />
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		<title>By: Jacob Laren</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14316</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Laren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, in response to your question about the specific heritage value of these to-be demolished buildings, the best answer I&#039;ve read is from Louis Rastelli&#039;s recent &#039;zine about the Lower Main. 

These buildings rounding the southwest corner are architecturally significant because they stand there in a continuous line. There are few places where a stretch of turn-of-the-century commercial buildings still exist in a row like that. (Parts of Crescent, Sherbrooke near Concordia come to find, for instance. Of course, these buildings have been turned into high-end clothing boutiques and private art galleries.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, in response to your question about the specific heritage value of these to-be demolished buildings, the best answer I've read is from Louis Rastelli's recent 'zine about the Lower Main. </p>
<p>These buildings rounding the southwest corner are architecturally significant because they stand there in a continuous line. There are few places where a stretch of turn-of-the-century commercial buildings still exist in a row like that. (Parts of Crescent, Sherbrooke near Concordia come to find, for instance. Of course, these buildings have been turned into high-end clothing boutiques and private art galleries.)</p>
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		<title>By: Neath</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14314</link>
		<dc:creator>Neath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ve been a big follower of the Jazz Festival since it began but all this tearing down and replacing it with something neither all that great or just out and out pointless leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It&#039;s the Disneyization of Montreal no doubt about it. Our developers seem hell bent on making Montreal indistinguishable from other North American cities as quickly as they can.

And I hate those pictures of various jazz legends on the side of the building at Jeanne Mannce and Ste Catherine. It seems to be well intentioned but it looks horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ve been a big follower of the Jazz Festival since it began but all this tearing down and replacing it with something neither all that great or just out and out pointless leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It's the Disneyization of Montreal no doubt about it. Our developers seem hell bent on making Montreal indistinguishable from other North American cities as quickly as they can.</p>
<p>And I hate those pictures of various jazz legends on the side of the building at Jeanne Mannce and Ste Catherine. It seems to be well intentioned but it looks horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Gatti</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14313</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Gatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alain, I cried about the felling of this little stand of crabapple trees. If some were ill they should have been replaced. Decades before la piste Claire Morrissette, the actual Claire and others of us would gasp out in joy seeing these pretty pink trees as we cycled by. It is a concrete wasteland now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alain, I cried about the felling of this little stand of crabapple trees. If some were ill they should have been replaced. Decades before la piste Claire Morrissette, the actual Claire and others of us would gasp out in joy seeing these pretty pink trees as we cycled by. It is a concrete wasteland now.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanah Heffez</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14307</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanah Heffez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I wrote an article about some of the history of these buildings here:
http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/05/07/lower-main-may-be-razedagain/

Most of the info for that article came from this study, which was actually done by the developer:
http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/ocpm/pdf/P38/3b.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I wrote an article about some of the history of these buildings here:<br />
<a href="http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/05/07/lower-main-may-be-razedagain/" rel="nofollow">http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/05/07/lower-main-may-be-razedagain/</a></p>
<p>Most of the info for that article came from this study, which was actually done by the developer:<br />
<a href="http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/ocpm/pdf/P38/3b.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/ocpm/pdf/P38/3b.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Prince</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maria, I agree, it seems wrong to tear down &quot;these fine old buildings&quot;. Do we know who built them, in what year, who was the architect, etc? Do they have objective architectural merit? Anyone done such a diagnostic? I have a few of the City&#039;s inventory (+/- 1980) of heritage buildings and will have a quick gander. Heritage Montreal spoken out on this? Ackk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria, I agree, it seems wrong to tear down "these fine old buildings". Do we know who built them, in what year, who was the architect, etc? Do they have objective architectural merit? Anyone done such a diagnostic? I have a few of the City's inventory (+/- 1980) of heritage buildings and will have a quick gander. Heritage Montreal spoken out on this? Ackk!</p>
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		<title>By: Singlestar</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14304</link>
		<dc:creator>Singlestar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A consultation done in 2002 is hardly justification for blather today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A consultation done in 2002 is hardly justification for blather today.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14303</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst disaster in the area is the destruction of this little oasis that was the park with all those magnificent crab apple trees to make way for another concrete desert. The one on the west side of PDA is really a dreadful place. Now that they reopened De Maisonneuve, I discovered that the street is much narrower than it was and that the bike path has disappeared. The concrete bricks on the sidewalk are different shades of gray, I think are supposed to be it, but it&#039;s the sidewalk and pedestrians use it, so the bikes are on this too narrow street. The whole thing is a mess, sacrificed to the showbiz industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst disaster in the area is the destruction of this little oasis that was the park with all those magnificent crab apple trees to make way for another concrete desert. The one on the west side of PDA is really a dreadful place. Now that they reopened De Maisonneuve, I discovered that the street is much narrower than it was and that the bike path has disappeared. The concrete bricks on the sidewalk are different shades of gray, I think are supposed to be it, but it's the sidewalk and pedestrians use it, so the bikes are on this too narrow street. The whole thing is a mess, sacrificed to the showbiz industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Gatti</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14300</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Gatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is utterly ridiculous and counterintuitive to tear down these fine old buildings. The area was getting rather cruddy and does need some kind of boost, but it sounds like horse medecine. 

It would be nice to have more &quot;neighbourhood businesses&quot; - one of the best was Main Grocery, the pioneer Middle Eastern grocery in Mtl. At least the IGA over at Place Dupuis has made it possible to get grocery/household staples (obviously Chinatown just to the south has lots of good greens etc). But some of the &quot;green&quot; businesses sound like greenwashing for tourists, not needs for people living and/or working in the neighbourhood. Which can also make it a more pleasant part of the city centre to visit. 

Entertainment venues do come and go. Le Medley was another important venue, once Le Vieux Munich,  which closed down just recently - one I&#039;d actually been to. 

How can Parc de la Paix be made more welcoming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is utterly ridiculous and counterintuitive to tear down these fine old buildings. The area was getting rather cruddy and does need some kind of boost, but it sounds like horse medecine. </p>
<p>It would be nice to have more "neighbourhood businesses" - one of the best was Main Grocery, the pioneer Middle Eastern grocery in Mtl. At least the IGA over at Place Dupuis has made it possible to get grocery/household staples (obviously Chinatown just to the south has lots of good greens etc). But some of the "green" businesses sound like greenwashing for tourists, not needs for people living and/or working in the neighbourhood. Which can also make it a more pleasant part of the city centre to visit. </p>
<p>Entertainment venues do come and go. Le Medley was another important venue, once Le Vieux Munich,  which closed down just recently - one I'd actually been to. </p>
<p>How can Parc de la Paix be made more welcoming?</p>
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		<title>By: James_MTL</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/01/30/the-lower-mains-last-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-14298</link>
		<dc:creator>James_MTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some one who lives in the area - I have been eagerly waiting for the &#039;re-development &amp; revitalization&#039;.

That being said, all I have seen over the last several years has been nothing more than closed and boarded up shops creating an area of town that is quickly loosing what ever vibrancy it has left!

On top of that, the construction on St. Catherines for the 2nd phase of the QdS does not help the situation.

Cafe Cleo - please step aside for the better of the Quartier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some one who lives in the area - I have been eagerly waiting for the 're-development &amp; revitalization'.</p>
<p>That being said, all I have seen over the last several years has been nothing more than closed and boarded up shops creating an area of town that is quickly loosing what ever vibrancy it has left!</p>
<p>On top of that, the construction on St. Catherines for the 2nd phase of the QdS does not help the situation.</p>
<p>Cafe Cleo - please step aside for the better of the Quartier.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The city has NO business getting involved with this let alone expropriating the property.  This is private development project.  

As far as this project goes: why does revitalizing the area mean tearing down the existing urban fabric.  The city NEVER learns. It is because of hare-brained schemes like this that we have such stunning parcels such as Overdale.  In fact, much of the Guy-Crescent sector looks the way it does because of hasty demolitions of perfectly good buildings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city has NO business getting involved with this let alone expropriating the property.  This is private development project.  </p>
<p>As far as this project goes: why does revitalizing the area mean tearing down the existing urban fabric.  The city NEVER learns. It is because of hare-brained schemes like this that we have such stunning parcels such as Overdale.  In fact, much of the Guy-Crescent sector looks the way it does because of hasty demolitions of perfectly good buildings.</p>
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