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	<title>Comments on: Slow Down, Quadrilatère Saint-Laurent</title>
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		<title>By: real estate</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-14012</link>
		<dc:creator>real estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this block needs to be totally restored with a great respect to it’s historical and present alternative nature,it is a vibrant nieghborhood to that has survived the awful neglect that has been allowed to happen via it’s previous owners (including Hydro Quebec).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this block needs to be totally restored with a great respect to it’s historical and present alternative nature,it is a vibrant nieghborhood to that has survived the awful neglect that has been allowed to happen via it’s previous owners (including Hydro Quebec).</p>
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		<title>By: Gift Taxes</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-13296</link>
		<dc:creator>Gift Taxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly agree that authorities should give the architectural concept time to ripen. Personally, I think it should be preserved for the future generation of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly agree that authorities should give the architectural concept time to ripen. Personally, I think it should be preserved for the future generation of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-13178</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The burlesque dancers from Cafe Cleopatra are asking for heritage-buff Prince Charles&#039; help!

http://www.optative.net/blog/2009/11/10/burlesque-dancers-ask-prince-charles-to-save-the-red-light-district/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The burlesque dancers from Cafe Cleopatra are asking for heritage-buff Prince Charles' help!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.optative.net/blog/2009/11/10/burlesque-dancers-ask-prince-charles-to-save-the-red-light-district/" rel="nofollow">http://www.optative.net/blog/2009/11/10/burlesque-dancers-ask-prince-charles-to-save-the-red-light-district/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12356</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, this block of buildings is a very shady area without any architectural vision, it&#039;s disgusting. 

Do we really want to keep a bunch of hot-dog stores , abandonned offices and a strip bar at the expense of a larger and modern architectural vision?

Activism to preserve our architectural landscape is fine but some of you don&#039;t know which battles to pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, this block of buildings is a very shady area without any architectural vision, it's disgusting. </p>
<p>Do we really want to keep a bunch of hot-dog stores , abandonned offices and a strip bar at the expense of a larger and modern architectural vision?</p>
<p>Activism to preserve our architectural landscape is fine but some of you don't know which battles to pick.</p>
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		<title>By: julian</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12341</link>
		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To someone said ...The lower main is for &quot;color&quot; of this City what color ? there isn&#039;t any color ,all the stores are closed and sealed they look dark and in a state of crying out for help,no one ever get they business going for more than a year , it looks like a ghost town from a horror movie , &quot;slowing down is a good thing&quot; ?  what a stupid commentI have ever read, has this area ever been developed in the last 50 years ? it&#039;s almost looked like WW2 has just ended yesterday when you see all those abandoned crumbling stores waiting to be fixed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To someone said ...The lower main is for "color" of this City what color ? there isn't any color ,all the stores are closed and sealed they look dark and in a state of crying out for help,no one ever get they business going for more than a year , it looks like a ghost town from a horror movie , "slowing down is a good thing" ?  what a stupid commentI have ever read, has this area ever been developed in the last 50 years ? it's almost looked like WW2 has just ended yesterday when you see all those abandoned crumbling stores waiting to be fixed</p>
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		<title>By: viiny</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12340</link>
		<dc:creator>viiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This area has been dead for over a decade , all the buildings there are just waiting to collapse onto the street it&#039;just a matter of time ,at night the whole section of that street is abandoned by the public only drug and alcohol abusers playing &quot;seek and hide&quot; with each other or with the police ,time to clean it up and stop all the endless debate please...what a disgrace area every time I have to walk pass that part of St laurent street</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This area has been dead for over a decade , all the buildings there are just waiting to collapse onto the street it'just a matter of time ,at night the whole section of that street is abandoned by the public only drug and alcohol abusers playing "seek and hide" with each other or with the police ,time to clean it up and stop all the endless debate please...what a disgrace area every time I have to walk pass that part of St laurent street</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12177</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downtown is for the office buildings...the lower main is for the &#039;color&#039; of this city.  

As some one who lives just a block away from this location - it would be a shame to see this area loose its charm for a office building!  

Slowing down to develop a building that honors the lower mains past can only be a good thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downtown is for the office buildings...the lower main is for the 'color' of this city.  </p>
<p>As some one who lives just a block away from this location - it would be a shame to see this area loose its charm for a office building!  </p>
<p>Slowing down to develop a building that honors the lower mains past can only be a good thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Niomi</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12155</link>
		<dc:creator>Niomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vancouver may be developing at a fast rate but keep in mind Montreal is several hundred years old and Vancouver is a relatively new city.

Many, especially the locals, would say Vancouver is developing too quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver may be developing at a fast rate but keep in mind Montreal is several hundred years old and Vancouver is a relatively new city.</p>
<p>Many, especially the locals, would say Vancouver is developing too quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Adolfo</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12104</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand you guys being picky but I get excited whenever I hear about a new development and almost always it is stopped because nobody wants it to go forward. There is almost no new development in Montreal compared to Vancouver (where I am visiting now) for example. It is a little frustrating for those of us who like to see things evolve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand you guys being picky but I get excited whenever I hear about a new development and almost always it is stopped because nobody wants it to go forward. There is almost no new development in Montreal compared to Vancouver (where I am visiting now) for example. It is a little frustrating for those of us who like to see things evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Niomi</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12103</link>
		<dc:creator>Niomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$167,000,000!


Completely overblown, 100% padded, supremely unrealistic and utterly surreal price for a 12 story building anywhere on the island of Montreal.


Angus Development Corp may call itself a non-profit corporation but all that means is they make sure they spend all their profits by December 31st every year so they don&#039;t have to pay taxes on it. Such as, spending 167 mil on a building that could be done for 1/4 of the price. No doubt their construction contractors are subsidiaries of their own company, or a close equivalent.


Anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$167,000,000!</p>
<p>Completely overblown, 100% padded, supremely unrealistic and utterly surreal price for a 12 story building anywhere on the island of Montreal.</p>
<p>Angus Development Corp may call itself a non-profit corporation but all that means is they make sure they spend all their profits by December 31st every year so they don't have to pay taxes on it. Such as, spending 167 mil on a building that could be done for 1/4 of the price. No doubt their construction contractors are subsidiaries of their own company, or a close equivalent.</p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: El Bobino</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12098</link>
		<dc:creator>El Bobino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? Hydro Quebec can&#039;t build whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want? OMG, what&#039;s this province coming to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? Hydro Quebec can't build whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want? OMG, what's this province coming to?</p>
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		<title>By: Zvi</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12095</link>
		<dc:creator>Zvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many city governments are enamoured with &#039;big projects&#039; since they provide highly visible signs of &quot;development&quot;. Montreal does not exactly have people lining up and offering to redevelop the city&#039;s dilapidated areas, so when someone does eventually offer to put &quot;money on the table&quot;, the city tends to bend over backwards to accommodate them. 

This consultation process has spurred interest from numerous different directions.  Big is not necessarily best, but the barriers to entry to getting development/redevelopment projects off the ground are so high that small projects have little chance of being feasible. 

Why can&#039;t government deal with incremental change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many city governments are enamoured with 'big projects' since they provide highly visible signs of "development". Montreal does not exactly have people lining up and offering to redevelop the city's dilapidated areas, so when someone does eventually offer to put "money on the table", the city tends to bend over backwards to accommodate them. </p>
<p>This consultation process has spurred interest from numerous different directions.  Big is not necessarily best, but the barriers to entry to getting development/redevelopment projects off the ground are so high that small projects have little chance of being feasible. </p>
<p>Why can't government deal with incremental change?</p>
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		<title>By: Cabaret Cleo</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12092</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabaret Cleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the beginning, Cabaret Cleo has been singled out as the only opponent to the Quadrilatère Saint-Laurent. What about the many people, architects, University professors, doctors, etc. that have presented memoirs to the Office and expressed genuine concerns? Isn&#039;t it time that we say no to projects developed in private, away from people who live and work on the Main?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the beginning, Cabaret Cleo has been singled out as the only opponent to the Quadrilatère Saint-Laurent. What about the many people, architects, University professors, doctors, etc. that have presented memoirs to the Office and expressed genuine concerns? Isn't it time that we say no to projects developed in private, away from people who live and work on the Main?</p>
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		<title>By: tacosburritos</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12091</link>
		<dc:creator>tacosburritos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad project, should fail.

OCPM is the &quot;good cop&quot; to the city-developer complex&#039;s &quot;bad cop&quot;. has the O ever rejected a project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad project, should fail.</p>
<p>OCPM is the "good cop" to the city-developer complex's "bad cop". has the O ever rejected a project?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12090</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone name a major development that has been denied an exception to build above the maximum number of storeys as defined by the Master Plan? It seems every development I read about gets the exception that they ask for or close to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone name a major development that has been denied an exception to build above the maximum number of storeys as defined by the Master Plan? It seems every development I read about gets the exception that they ask for or close to it.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy toxic</title>
		<link>http://spacingmontreal.ca/2009/08/09/slow-down-quadrilatere-saint-laurent/comment-page-1/#comment-12088</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this block needs to be totally restored with a great respect to it&#039;s historical and present  alternative nature,it is a vibrant nieghborhood to that has survived the awful neglect that has been allowed to happen via it&#039;s previous owners (including Hydro Quebec). The city should have been involved years ago and have a more strict policy on speculation and the &#039;state of repair&#039;of all it&#039;s buildings. This street has a history of daring and &#039;working peoples theatre&#039;....which is where the great art of higher institutions originates. This could be a unique destination for vistors and tourists alike...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this block needs to be totally restored with a great respect to it's historical and present  alternative nature,it is a vibrant nieghborhood to that has survived the awful neglect that has been allowed to happen via it's previous owners (including Hydro Quebec). The city should have been involved years ago and have a more strict policy on speculation and the 'state of repair'of all it's buildings. This street has a history of daring and 'working peoples theatre'....which is where the great art of higher institutions originates. This could be a unique destination for vistors and tourists alike...</p>
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		<title>By: Jér</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jér</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;...the over-the-top, anything-goes spirit that still characterizes Montreal.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;


Ahahaaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<i>...the over-the-top, anything-goes spirit that still characterizes Montreal.</i>"</p>
<p>Ahahaaha!</p>
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