Comments on: Dancing in the streets http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:15:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: JOhn http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-6796 JOhn Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:57:12 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-6796 This is a nice post about book Gift cards and its a very needed information. Thanks for such an important post. Thanks This is a nice post about book Gift cards and its a very needed information.
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]]> By: Denis Agar http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4142 Denis Agar Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:57:37 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4142 Pish posh. Sparks St. failed because all the real estate along it is geared to boring, shitty uses that don't draw people. Banks, government departments, more banks, and a joke of a CBC building that doesn't even face Sparks! Throw in a museum, a theatre, public art, a water fountain, LITERALLY ANYTHING, and it would pick up. Pish posh. Sparks St. failed because all the real estate along it is geared to boring, shitty uses that don't draw people. Banks, government departments, more banks, and a joke of a CBC building that doesn't even face Sparks! Throw in a museum, a theatre, public art, a water fountain, LITERALLY ANYTHING, and it would pick up.

]]> By: Shawn http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4088 Shawn Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:58:20 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4088 Last thought. My (uninformed) theory: Sparks was probably too close to the magnet-pull of the historic Byward Market, which grew at Spark's expense. Last thought. My (uninformed) theory: Sparks was probably too close to the magnet-pull of the historic Byward Market, which grew at Spark's expense.

]]> By: Shawn http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4087 Shawn Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:55:22 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4087 That said, I have to admit, some of the permanent pedestrian malls -- not temporary street closures -- are dreadful. And speaking of Sparks Street, I visited it recently and was shocked to see what a wasteland it had become. Thing is, I remember visiting Sparks years ago and it DID seem vital and alive. What happened to it? I guess this is more a question for Spacing Ottawa, but what gives? Is a street mall like a new stadium -- there's a novelty factor that carries it for a while and then it wears off? Or did Ottawa somehow screw it up...? That said, I have to admit, some of the permanent pedestrian malls -- not temporary street closures -- are dreadful.

And speaking of Sparks Street, I visited it recently and was shocked to see what a wasteland it had become.

Thing is, I remember visiting Sparks years ago and it DID seem vital and alive. What happened to it? I guess this is more a question for Spacing Ottawa, but what gives? Is a street mall like a new stadium -- there's a novelty factor that carries it for a while and then it wears off?

Or did Ottawa somehow screw it up...?

]]> By: Shawn http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4085 Shawn Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:36:10 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4085 Funny, I read her Death and Life of Great American Cities and I didn't recall Jacobs coming out against pedestrian streets. She WAS opposed to no-man's land-type project squares where there were no human traffic, no "eyes on the street," and therefore less vitality and public safety. But I can't imagine her being opposed to any urban concept where there was human-scaled density, variety and vitality. It's not like she was pro-car. Funny, I read her Death and Life of Great American Cities and I didn't recall Jacobs coming out against pedestrian streets.

She WAS opposed to no-man's land-type project squares where there were no human traffic, no "eyes on the street," and therefore less vitality and public safety.

But I can't imagine her being opposed to any urban concept where there was human-scaled density, variety and vitality. It's not like she was pro-car.

]]> By: Maria Gatti http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4074 Maria Gatti Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:46:35 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4074 There are some dreadful failures, such as the Sparks St Mall in Ottawa, but there are a lot of reasons for that. I think the leases are also terribly expensive. But many are very successful. Not just Las Ramblas, but also market streets such as Albert Cuyp in Amsterdam. I don't see how it applies to a temporary closing, which is an event, not permanent town planning. Indeed, Plaza St-Hubert is very bizarre. There are stores that seem full of outdated knick-knacks - I'm not talking about the junk shops but slightly more tony ones with names such as Décor du Plaza (?) staffed with elderly ladies and selling amazing kitch - but they also sell just about every size and type of lampshade and I found two there for lamps I had. I walked up and down it a couple of times this year. But I had no desire whatsoever to go to the street sale downtown. There are some dreadful failures, such as the Sparks St Mall in Ottawa, but there are a lot of reasons for that. I think the leases are also terribly expensive. But many are very successful. Not just Las Ramblas, but also market streets such as Albert Cuyp in Amsterdam.

I don't see how it applies to a temporary closing, which is an event, not permanent town planning.

Indeed, Plaza St-Hubert is very bizarre. There are stores that seem full of outdated knick-knacks - I'm not talking about the junk shops but slightly more tony ones with names such as Décor du Plaza (?) staffed with elderly ladies and selling amazing kitch - but they also sell just about every size and type of lampshade and I found two there for lamps I had.

I walked up and down it a couple of times this year. But I had no desire whatsoever to go to the street sale downtown.

]]> By: Christopher DeWolf http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4069 Christopher DeWolf Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:29:22 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4069 Jane Jacobs was not a fan of pedestrian streets --- she cited Boston's Downtown Crossing as an example --- but I don't necessarily agree with her because I think she was working within an overly narrow context. There are plenty of successful pedestrian-only streets around the world. In any case, I don't think she ever said anything about temporary street closures for fairs and festivals, so I'm not really sure how this applies here. Jane Jacobs was not a fan of pedestrian streets --- she cited Boston's Downtown Crossing as an example --- but I don't necessarily agree with her because I think she was working within an overly narrow context. There are plenty of successful pedestrian-only streets around the world.

In any case, I don't think she ever said anything about temporary street closures for fairs and festivals, so I'm not really sure how this applies here.

]]> By: Leila http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4068 Leila Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:10:52 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4068 and she says....? and she says....?

]]> By: Julie Fournier http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4065 Julie Fournier Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:56:29 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4065 Plaza St-Hubert is such a delightfully weird place. I can't really even describe it but from time to time I think about writing a little piece on its odd personality. I didn't even know about it until I moved to the neighbourhood. I have no idea how some of those stores survive. Plaza St-Hubert is such a delightfully weird place. I can't really even describe it but from time to time I think about writing a little piece on its odd personality.

I didn't even know about it until I moved to the neighbourhood. I have no idea how some of those stores survive.

]]> By: newironshapes http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-4064 newironshapes Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:46:54 +0000 http://spacingmontreal.ca/2008/07/15/dancing-in-the-streets/#comment-4064 street closures? i don't know, i'm with jane jacobs on this one. street closures?

i don't know, i'm with jane jacobs on this one.

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